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<div><span style="color:#808080;" >MBA, MAcc, MS Global Technology and Development<br> IBM Certified Technical Specialist Level 2 Expert</span><br> </div> </td> <td style="overflow: hidden; width: 375px; border-color : #696969;" > </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="overflow: hidden; width: 375px; border-color : #696969;" ><span style="color:#808080;" ><span style="font-size: 0.857em;" >Certified Deployment Professional - Spectrum Scale<br> Certified Solution Advisor - Spectrum Computing<br> Certified Solution Architect - Spectrum Storage Solutions</span></span></td> <td style="overflow: hidden; width: 375px; border-color : #696969;" > </td> </tr> <tr> <td style="overflow: hidden; width: 375px; border-color : #696969;" > <div><br> <span style="font-size:0.857em;" ><span style="color:#808080;" >720.349.6199 - kevindjo@us.ibm.com</span></span><br> </div>
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<blockquote data-history-content-modified="1" data-history-expanded="1" dir="ltr" style="border-left:solid #aaaaaa 2px; margin-left:5px; padding-left:5px; direction:ltr; margin-right:0px" >----- Original message -----<br>From: "Sanchez, Paul" <Paul.Sanchez@deshaw.com><br>Sent by: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org<br>To: "gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org" <gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org><br>Cc:<br>Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Spectrum Scale Sizing Questions -> Typical size of descOnly NSD & Network latency/throughput requirements quorum-only node<br>Date: Fri, Mar 13, 2020 11:07 AM<br> <br><!--Notes ACF
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<div><p style="margin: 0px;" >Per <a href="https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/STXKQY_5.0.4/com.ibm.spectrum.scale.v5r04.doc/bl1ins_nsdfail.htm" target="_blank"> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/STXKQY_5.0.4/com.ibm.spectrum.scale.v5r04.doc/bl1ins_nsdfail.htm</a> and confirmed by several instances in a live environment\u2026<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >Dear Spectrum Scale User Group,</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >can somebody please share with me answers to the following setup / architectural questions:</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >- What size is typically required for a descOnly NSD, that will only hold a copy of a filesystem descriptor area?</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >- Having a 2-node "core-cluster" and a quorum node at a third site with locally attached descOnly NSDs to that q-node. </span><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >What are the network latency / bandwidth requirements for traffic flowing between core-cluster-nodes and the q-node?</span><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >(from my understanding the traffic contains primarily mmfsd communication - including FS descOnly updates - but no data/metadata I/O)</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt" >Thank you in advance for answers - have a nice weekend.</span><br><br><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Sincerely</span><br><br><b><span style="font-family:"Arial",sans-serif" >Christoph Krafft</span></b><br><br><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0055AA" >Client Technical Specialist - Power Systems, IBM Systems</span><br><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#0055AA" >Certified IT Specialist @ The Open Group </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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