<html><body><p><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;&gt; There was a thread concerning fileset issues back in February, wondering if the limits had changed <br>between 4.x to 5.0.0 releases, but it went unanswered</font></tt><br><br><font size="2">Regarding the above query, it was answered on 5 Feb, 2018</font><br><br><tt><font size="2">&gt; Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Maximum Number of filesets on GPFS v5?<br>&gt; Date: Mon, Feb 5, 2018 2:56 PM</font></tt><br><tt><font size="2">&gt; Quoting &quot;Truong Vu&quot; &lt;truongv@us.ibm.com&gt;:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Hi Jamie,<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; The limits are the same in 5.0.0. &nbsp;We'll look into the FAQ.<br>&gt;&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt;&gt; Tru.</font></tt><br><br><font size="2">BTW, the FAQ has been  has been tweak a bit in this area.</font><br><br><font size="2">Thanks,</font><br><font size="2">Tru.</font><br><br><br><img width="16" height="16" src="cid:1__=0ABB08E9DFF2A53E8f9e8a93df938690918c0AB@" border="0" alt="Inactive hide details for gpfsug-discuss-request---04/25/2018 09:09:23 AM---Send gpfsug-discuss mailing list submissions to  gp"><font size="2" color="#424282">gpfsug-discuss-request---04/25/2018 09:09:23 AM---Send gpfsug-discuss mailing list submissions to  gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</font><br><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">From:        </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss-request@spectrumscale.org</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">To:        </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Date:        </font><font size="2">04/25/2018 09:09 AM</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Subject:        </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss Digest, Vol 75, Issue 48</font><br><font size="2" color="#5F5F5F">Sent by:        </font><font size="2">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</font><br><hr width="100%" size="2" align="left" noshade style="color:#8091A5; "><br><br><br><tt><font size="2">Send gpfsug-discuss mailing list submissions to<br>                 gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org<br><br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>                 </font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gpfsug.org_mailman_listinfo_gpfsug-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&s=FtLzwY_unGN6f6WlAmJFeDFnMICYLyNlAAIxft_8wgM&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gpfsug.org_mailman_listinfo_gpfsug-2Ddiscuss&amp;d=DwICAg&amp;c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&amp;r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&amp;m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&amp;s=FtLzwY_unGN6f6WlAmJFeDFnMICYLyNlAAIxft_8wgM&amp;e=</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2"><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br>                 gpfsug-discuss-request@spectrumscale.org<br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br>                 gpfsug-discuss-owner@spectrumscale.org<br><br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of gpfsug-discuss digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today's Topics:<br><br> &nbsp; 1. Re: Converting a dependent fileset to independent (David Johnson)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 09:07:19 -0400<br>From: David Johnson &lt;david_johnson@brown.edu&gt;<br>To: gpfsug main discussion list &lt;gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to<br>                 independent<br>Message-ID: &lt;E7BAC76C-D746-40CD-A72E-843A01480726@brown.edu&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br><br>Yes, independent snapshotting would be an issue. &nbsp;However at the moment we have 570 dependent filesets in our<br>main filesystem, which is not all that far from the limit of 1000 independent filesets per filesystem. &nbsp;<br>There was a thread concerning fileset issues back in February, wondering if the limits had changed <br>between 4.x to 5.0.0 releases, but it went unanswered. &nbsp;<br><br>We would love to be able to use the features independent filesets (quicker traversal by policy engine,<br>snapshots as you mention, etc), but the thought that we could run out of them as our user base grows killed that idea.<br><br>&gt; On Apr 25, 2018, at 8:35 AM, Sobey, Richard A &lt;r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; You can apply fileset quotas to independent filesets to you know. Sorry if that sounds passive aggressive, not meant to be!<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; Main reason for us NOT to use dependent filesets is lack of snapshotting.<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; Richard<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt; &lt;gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt; On Behalf Of david_johnson@brown.edu &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:david_johnson@brown.edu">mailto:david_johnson@brown.edu</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;<br>&gt; Sent: 25 April 2018 13:14<br>&gt; To: gpfsug main discussion list &lt;gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; We use a dependent fileset for each research group / investigator. We do this mainly so we can apply fileset quotas. &nbsp; We tried independent filesets but they were quite inconvenient:<br>&gt; 1) limited number independent filesets could be created compared to dependent<br>&gt; 2) requirement to manage number of inodes allocated to each and every independent fileset<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; There may have been other issues but we create a new dependent fileset whenever &nbsp;a new researcher joins our cluster. <br>&gt; &nbsp; -- ddj<br>&gt; Dave Johnson<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Daniel Kidger &lt;daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com">mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; It would though be a nice to have feature: to leave the file data where it was and just move the metadata into its own inode space?<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; A related question though:<br>&gt; In what case do people create new *dependant* filesets ? I can't see many cases where an independent fileset would be just as valid.<br>&gt; Daniel<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; &nbsp;&lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youracclaim.com_user_danel-2Dkidger&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&s=ctx0N2K6fykHKd_4sWHgXk0eRcJLrWcWvCYS1ea7o-s&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youracclaim.com_user_danel-2Dkidger&amp;d=DwICAg&amp;c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&amp;r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&amp;m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&amp;s=ctx0N2K6fykHKd_4sWHgXk0eRcJLrWcWvCYS1ea7o-s&amp;e=</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;                 <br>&gt; &lt;~WRD000.jpg&gt; &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youracclaim.com_user_danel-2Dkidger&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&s=ctx0N2K6fykHKd_4sWHgXk0eRcJLrWcWvCYS1ea7o-s&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youracclaim.com_user_danel-2Dkidger&amp;d=DwICAg&amp;c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&amp;r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&amp;m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&amp;s=ctx0N2K6fykHKd_4sWHgXk0eRcJLrWcWvCYS1ea7o-s&amp;e=</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;                 <br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; Dr Daniel Kidger<br>&gt; IBM Technical Sales Specialist<br>&gt; Software Defined Solution Sales<br>&gt; <br>&gt; +44-(0)7818 522 266 <br>&gt; daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com">mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; ----- Original message -----<br>&gt; From: &quot;Sobey, Richard A&quot; &lt;r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk">mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; Sent by: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;<br>&gt; To: gpfsug main discussion list &lt;gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; Cc:<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<br>&gt; Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 10:01 AM<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi Marc<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Yes, copying the data to a freshly created fileset and unlinking/renaming/relinking is our solution; it was always a long shot expecting to be able to convert it ?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Richard<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; From: gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt; &lt;gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt; On Behalf Of Marc A Kaplan<br>&gt; Sent: 24 April 2018 13:49<br>&gt; To: gpfsug main discussion list &lt;gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<br>&gt; <br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; To help make sense of this, one has to understand that &quot;independent&quot; means a different range of inode numbers.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; If you have a set of files within one range of inode numbers, say 3000-5000 and now you want to move some of them to a new range of inode numbers, say 7000-8000, you're going to have to create that new range as a new independent fileset, and then move (copy!) the files to the new fileset. &nbsp;And then rename directories so that you can once again refer to the files by the pathnames that they &quot;used to&quot; have.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; During the copying and renaming, you would have to make sure there are no applications trying to access those files and directories.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;Sobey, Richard A&quot; &lt;r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk">mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;'gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;'&quot; &lt;gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;&gt;<br>&gt; Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;04/24/2018 05:20 AM<br>&gt; Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;[gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<br>&gt; Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; Is there any way, without starting over, to convert a dependent fileset to independent?<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; My gut says no but in the spirit of not making unnecessary work I wanted to ask.<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; Also, the documentation states that I should see a ?dpnd? next to a dependent fileset when I run mmlsfileset with -L; this is not the case even though the parent fileset is root in this case.<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; [root@nsd bin]# mmlsfileset gpfs studentrecruitmentandoutreach -L<br>&gt; Filesets in file system 'gpfs':<br>&gt; Name &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Id &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;RootInode &nbsp;ParentId Created &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;InodeSpace &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;MaxInodes &nbsp; &nbsp;AllocInodes Comment<br>&gt; studentrecruitmentandoutreach &nbsp;241 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8700824 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 Wed Feb 14 14:25:49 2018 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0<br>&gt; &nbsp;<br>&gt; Thanks<br>&gt; Richard_______________________________________________<br>&gt; gpfsug-discuss mailing list<br>&gt; gpfsug-discuss at spectrumscale.org &lt;</font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__spectrumscale.org_&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&s=N4Mu7JvqpvzZ7EN4r2Qj2Zafsn1e4kbbgjmWJWwKVgc&e=">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__spectrumscale.org_&amp;d=DwICAg&amp;c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&amp;r=HQmkdQWQHoc1Nu6Mg_g8NVugim3OiUUy5n0QgLQcbkM&amp;m=S98LocHjHQe1pGot4UAs0sYXj1NhEPyEXoEcqsDxCtM&amp;s=N4Mu7JvqpvzZ7EN4r2Qj2Zafsn1e4kbbgjmWJWwKVgc&amp;e=</a></font></tt><tt><font size="2">&gt;<br>&gt; </font></tt><tt><font size="2"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gpfsug.org_mailman_listinfo_gpfsug-2Ddiscuss&d=DwICAg&c=jf_iaSHvJObTbx-siA1ZOg&r=cvpnBBH0j41aQy0RPiG2xRL_M8mTc1izuQD3_PmtjZ8&m=W9WH1n93tRRhW5npPGd73Dqgcp4d0oAYKt4yOI02P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