<div dir="ltr">Thanks all for great suggestions. We will most likely end up using either AFM or some mechanism of file copy (tar/rsync etc.). </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 12:39 PM Wahl, Edward <<a href="mailto:ewahl@osc.edu">ewahl@osc.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Along the same vein I've patched rsync to maintain source atimes in Linux for large transitions such as this. Along with the stadnard "patches" mod for destination atimes it is quite useful. Works in 3.0.8 and 3.0.9. I've not yet ported it to 3.1.x<br>
<a href="https://www.osc.edu/sites/osc.edu/files/staff_files/ewahl/onoatime.diff" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.osc.edu/sites/osc.edu/files/staff_files/ewahl/onoatime.diff</a><br>
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Ed Wahl<br>
OSC<br>
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Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] migrating data from GPFS3.5 to ESS appliance (GPFS4.1)<br>
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For what it's worth - there's a patch for rsync which IBM provided a<br>
while back that will copy NFSv4 ACLs (maybe other stuff?). I put it up<br>
on the gpfsug github here:<br>
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<a href="https://github.com/gpfsug/gpfsug-tools/tree/master/bin/rsync" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://github.com/gpfsug/gpfsug-tools/tree/master/bin/rsync</a><br>
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On 29/01/16 22:36, Sven Oehme wrote:<br>
> Doug,<br>
><br>
> This won't really work if you make use of ACL's or use special GPFS<br>
> extended attributes or set quotas, filesets, etc<br>
> so unfortunate the answer is you need to use a combination of things and<br>
> there is work going on to make some of this simpler (e.g. for ACL's) ,<br>
> but its a longer road to get there. so until then you need to think<br>
> about multiple aspects .<br>
><br>
> 1. you need to get the data across and there are various ways to do this.<br>
><br>
> a) AFM is the simplest of all as it not just takes care of ACL's and<br>
> extended attributes and alike as it understands the GPFS internals it<br>
> also is operating in parallel can prefetch data, etc so its a efficient<br>
> way to do this but as already pointed out doesn't transfer quota or<br>
> fileset informations.<br>
><br>
> b) you can either use rsync or any other pipe based copy program. the<br>
> downside is that they are typical single threaded and do a file by file<br>
> approach, means very metadata intensive on the source as well as target<br>
> side and cause a lot of ios on both side.<br>
><br>
> c) you can use the policy engine to create a list of files to transfer<br>
> to at least address the single threaded scan part, then partition the<br>
> data and run multiple instances of cp or rsync in parallel, still<br>
> doesn't fix the ACL / EA issues, but the data gets there faster.<br>
><br>
> 2. you need to get ACL/EA informations over too. there are several<br>
> command line options to dump the data and restore it, they kind of<br>
> suffer the same problem as data transfers , which is why using AFM is<br>
> the best way of doing this if you rely on ACL/EA informations.<br>
><br>
> 3. transfer quota / fileset infos. there are several ways to do this,<br>
> but all require some level of scripting to do this.<br>
><br>
> if you have TSM/HSM you could also transfer the data using SOBAR it's<br>
> described in the advanced admin book.<br>
><br>
> sven<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Hughes, Doug<br>
> <<a href="mailto:Douglas.Hughes@deshawresearch.com" target="_blank">Douglas.Hughes@deshawresearch.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:Douglas.Hughes@deshawresearch.com" target="_blank">Douglas.Hughes@deshawresearch.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> I have found that a tar pipe is much faster than rsync for this sort<br>
> of thing. The fastest of these is \u2018star\u2019 (schily tar). On average it<br>
> is about 2x-5x faster than rsync for doing this. After one pass with<br>
> this, you can use rsync for a subsequent or last pass synch.____<br>
><br>
> __ __<br>
><br>
> e.g.____<br>
><br>
> $ cd /export/gpfs1/foo____<br>
><br>
> $ star \u2013c H=xtar | (cd /export/gpfs2/foo; star \u2013xp)____<br>
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> __ __<br>
><br>
> This also will not preserve filesets and quotas, though. You should<br>
> be able to automate that with a little bit of awk, perl, or whatnot.____<br>
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> *Subject:* [gpfsug-discuss] migrating data from GPFS3.5 to ESS<br>
> appliance (GPFS4.1)____<br>
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> __ __<br>
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> We have recently purchased ESS appliance from IBM (GL6) with 1.5PT<br>
> of storage. We are in planning stages of implementation. We would<br>
> like to migrate date from our existing GPFS installation (around<br>
> 300TB) to new solution. ____<br>
><br>
> __ __<br>
><br>
> We were planning of adding ESS to our existing GPFS cluster and<br>
> adding its disks and then deleting our old disks and having the data<br>
> migrated this way. However, our existing block size on our projects<br>
> filesystem is 1M and in order to extract as much performance out of<br>
> ESS we would like its filesystem created with larger block size.<br>
> Besides rsync do you have any suggestions of how to do this without<br>
> downtime and in fastest way possible? ____<br>
><br>
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> I have looked at AFM but it does not seem to migrate quotas and<br>
> filesets so that may not be an optimal solution. ____<br>
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