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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You can apply fileset quotas to independent filesets to you know. Sorry if that sounds passive aggressive, not meant to be!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Main reason for us NOT to use dependent filesets is lack of snapshotting.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Richard<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org &lt;gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>david_johnson@brown.edu<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 25 April 2018 13:14<br>
<b>To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list &lt;gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We use a dependent fileset for each research group / investigator. We do this mainly so we can apply fileset quotas. &nbsp; We tried independent filesets but they were quite inconvenient:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1) limited number independent filesets could be created compared to dependent<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2) requirement to manage number of inodes allocated to each and every independent fileset<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">There may have been other issues but we create a new dependent fileset whenever &nbsp;a new researcher joins our cluster.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Apr 25, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Daniel Kidger &lt;<a href="mailto:daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com">daniel.kidger@uk.ibm.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">A related question though:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">In what case do people create new *dependant* filesets ? I can't see many cases where an independent fileset would be just as valid.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">----- Original message -----<br>
From: &quot;Sobey, Richard A&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk">r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk</a>&gt;<br>
Sent by: <a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a><br>
To: gpfsug main discussion list &lt;<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>&gt;<br>
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Subject: Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent<br>
Date: Wed, Apr 25, 2018 10:01 AM<br>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi Marc</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes, copying the data to a freshly created fileset and unlinking/renaming/relinking is our solution; it was always a long shot expecting to be able to convert it
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<p><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Richard</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a> &lt;<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marc A Kaplan<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 April 2018 13:49<br>
<b>To:</b> gpfsug main discussion list &lt;<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">To help make sense of this, one has to understand that &quot;independent&quot; means a different range of inode numbers.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">If you have a set of files within one range of inode numbers, say 3000-5000 and now you want to move some of them to a new range of inode numbers, say 7000-8000, you're going to have to create
 that new range as a new independent fileset, and then move (copy!) the files to the new fileset. &nbsp;And then rename directories so that you can once again refer to the files by the pathnames that they &quot;used to&quot; have.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">During the copying and renaming, you would have to make sure there are no applications trying to access those files and directories.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">From: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&quot;Sobey, Richard A&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk" target="_blank">r.sobey@imperial.ac.uk</a>&gt;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&quot;'<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>'&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss@spectrumscale.org</a>&gt;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Date: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">04/24/2018 05:20 AM</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Subject: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">[gpfsug-discuss] Converting a dependent fileset to independent</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:#5F5F5F">Sent by: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:7.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><a href="mailto:gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org" target="_blank">gpfsug-discuss-bounces@spectrumscale.org</a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Hi all,</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Is there any way, without starting over, to convert a dependent fileset to independent?</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">&nbsp;</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">My gut says no but in the spirit of not making unnecessary work I wanted to ask.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Also, the documentation states that I should see a \u201cdpnd\u201d next to a dependent fileset when I run mmlsfileset with -L; this is not the case even though the parent fileset is root in this case.</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
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</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">[root@nsd bin]# mmlsfileset gpfs studentrecruitmentandoutreach -L</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Filesets in file system 'gpfs':</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">Name &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Id &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;RootInode &nbsp;ParentId Created &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;InodeSpace &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;MaxInodes &nbsp; &nbsp;AllocInodes Comment</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
</span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Courier New&quot;">studentrecruitmentandoutreach &nbsp;241 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;8700824 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 0 Wed Feb 14 14:25:49 2018 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;0</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif"><br>
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